Video: Steve Jobs one-on-one, the '95 interview

He was already a superstar when he recorded this interview

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Weighing in on education in general, Jobs argues that computers can't replace teachers -- and then goes on to explain why TV shows are so bad.

"I used to think when I was in my twenties that technology was the solution to most of the world's problems, but unfortunately it just ain't so. I'll give you an analogy. A lot of times we think 'Why is the television programming so bad? Why are television shows so demeaning, so poor?'

"The first thought that occurs to you is 'Well, there is a conspiracy: The networks are feeding us this slop because its cheap to produce. It's the networks that are controlling this and they are feeding us this stuff.'

"But the truth of the matter, if you study it in any depth, is that networks absolutely want to give people what they want so they will watch the shows. If people wanted something different, they would get it. And the truth of the matter is that the shows that are on television, are on television because that's what people want. The majority of people in this country want to turn on a television and turn off their brain, and that's what they get. And that's far more depressing than a conspiracy."

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