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Users See Slow Progress on Microsoft-Sun Alliance

Vendors provide first update on joint efforts

By Carol Sliwa
December 6, 2004 12:00 PM ET

Computerworld - The progress report that Microsoft Corp. and Sun Microsystems Inc. issued last week on their joint initiatives left some IT managers and analysts wondering when or if the long-term collaboration that the two companies have promised will produce any substantial results.


Executives from the onetime bitter rivals cited collaborative efforts in areas such as Web services standards, identity management, storage and the optimization of Windows for Sun hardware. But much of the work is ongoing, and Microsoft and Sun didn't provide details about any major technology pronouncements that may be forthcoming.


"My expectation on them producing deliverables is very low," said Emanuel Joseph, data center manager at Lord, Abbett & Co., a Jersey City, N.J.-based mutual funds firm. Joseph added that he thinks the long history of conflict between Microsoft and Sun will make it difficult for them to build interoperable products.


Stan Johnson, a Portland-based LAN services manager for Multnomah County in Oregon, said he would like to have a single management console that he could use to populate or oversee end-user accounts in Microsoft's Active Directory and on Sun systems.


But Johnson remains skeptical about the long-term potential of the Sun-Microsoft alliance. "They're moving in the right direction, but I still think, right now, they have their own turf that they're interested in," he said. "So I'm not sure where it's going to pan out."


To be convinced that the alliance will produce results, Johnson said, he needs to see "a real product in hand that shows the collaboration," rather than just hear the vendors talk about their joint work.


Looking for Meaning


Several analysts said they heard nothing new in the first progress report that the two companies issued since their April announcement of a broad cooperation agreement, which also included a payment of nearly $2 billion from Microsoft to Sun to settle outstanding litigation between them .


Tom Bittman, an analyst at Gartner Inc., said the update was issued with "a defensive rationale" to help the vendors prove that they're collaborating. Bittman said he has no doubts that they're working together against their primary competitor, IBM. But he added that he isn't sure it matters anymore "because Sun's influence isn't nearly as strong as it used to be."
"In terms of real progress, you'd have to search hard to find anything. I didn't really hear anything meaningful at all," said Rob Enderle, an analyst at Enderle Group in San Jose. He said he thinks the two companies may never have intended to cooperate much beyond their initial agreement, which gave Sun a cash infusion and allowed Microsoft to free itself from antitrust and patent lawsuits.
Hank Vigil, vice president of consumer strategy and partnerships at Microsoft, objected to the vendors' collaboration efforts being characterized as modest in scope. "If you think about the history between Sun and Microsoft, it was quite a contentious history, where our ability to even talk to each other was not at all clear," he said. "I think that the eight months have proven not only are we crawling well, but we're learning how to walk, and someday we expect to run together."



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